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General Discussion / Re: Importing Sounds
« on: March 20, 2018, 04:04:11 pm »
I don't have any particular sites to recommend.  For the sounds I used, I just searched google for the sound name + mp3...   However, nowadays I spend way more time coding updates to the app than actually using it. 

Hopefully some other forum users that actually are using the app can chime in and give you some ideas.

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Issue Reporting / Re: Sound Goes Mute
« on: March 20, 2018, 05:55:16 am »
The fading of the Apple Music subscription songs requires that the entire phone volume be quickly taken down to zero and then restored.  That fading happens at the last second of those songs and the beginning if you have a cue time selected.

In most cases, the volume should be restored correctly after that process.  I did notice at least one use case where that process could be interupted so there is a fix for that in the latest version.  Try going to the app store, searching for Walkout Songs DJ and get the latest version. 2.3.12 or higher.

If you still have issues, I would recommend purchasing the individual songs you are using from iTunes or Amazon.  For songs not rented from Apple Music subscription, my app can access the raw audio data and fade using an audio effect rather than messing with the phone volume.

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Android users do not have the luxury of an iTunes library and a built in Apple music subscription so getting music sources for Walkout Song DJ can be more difficult and require purchasing of song files if you don't have a digital music collection left over from the 90's.

The easiest way to gather your song files is to just purchase the individual songs from amazon on your android device.  Amazon will ask you to install their Android app to download your purchases.  Once that is installed, open it and select my music, playlists, and then purchases and it should list what you have bought.  Tap the three dots at the end of each song row and select download and they will be put in your Android music files where walkout song dj can find them.  Older versions of the Amazon app used various storage methods so your purchased songs may not be visible or they may be obscured by subscription versions.  In that case, you can go into the settings app, application manager, and delete the data for the Amazon Music App to get to a clean slate on your device.

I have found recently, that you can actually purchase songs directly through the Amazon Music app.  Just use the search feature, find the song, again look for the three dot icon to the right of the song, tap that icon and select buy from the menu.  Complete the purchase, then go to "my music"|playlists|purchases, find the song you bought in the list, tap the three dots and select download from the menu and it will add the song to your Android music library and Walkout Songs should be able to find it.

You can also just ask the players to buy their individual song, download the song file and send you their song as a file attachment to an email.  Tap on the song file attachments in the emails and you should get an option to open with Walkout Songs which will put the files in the imports section.  Songs for situations can usually be found free floating around the internet by searching for "mp3 national anthem" for instance.  For those, just download with web browser, find the song in downloads and tap and open with walkout songs.

I know that upfront cost for the songs can be a burden, but if your the team sound person, you can usually request the team help spread the cost. 

If the team or league has a charitable organization designation, I think the cost of music for the game should be a tax deductible donation :)

I am still working to add streaming service sources to both the Android and iOS, but it is a long slow legal process with the services which I have not been able to negotiate so far.

If anyone else has any other methods for gathering music files on Android, please reply here and maybe help out your fellow users.

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Issue Reporting / Re: Settings
« on: March 19, 2018, 11:17:41 am »
Could you tell me the iPad model number and the iOS version you are using?   I don't see issues with that setting being visible on any of my iOS 11 devices, so I suspect there is an issue with the content offset of the settings table on a prior iOS version.

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General Discussion / Re: Importing Sounds
« on: March 19, 2018, 06:04:00 am »
I have made many requests of Apple to fix annoyances to my users and have never had any success. 

Apple seems quite set on preventing third party applications from accessing the ringtones on the device.  Up until iTunes 12.6, they did at least allow you a method to access the ringtone files on a pc or mac, but now that is not even an option.

You paid for the ringtone files, you should be able to access them in some manner.  Perhaps a consumer complaint filed with them from that angle could get some traction.

Otherwise, I would recommend not buying ringtones from Apple.  Buy them from another source, put them on your iCloud and then you can just tap share them with Walkout Songs.

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General Discussion / Re: Situation number limit
« on: March 16, 2018, 10:28:13 pm »
It think it is the same bug... for now you can try scrolling to the top of the list before tapping the add button.  I do have a real fix ready, but i have one update already in queue with Apple at the moment.  I will submit this update as soon as that one approves. It will be version 2.3.11.

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General Discussion / Re: Situation number limit
« on: March 16, 2018, 06:56:49 pm »
I was not aware there was any limit in any of the tabs...  is it ios or android, phone or tablet, and could you describe how you are limited?

I am aware that there is a bug in the ios ipad version that pushes the add situation dialog off the top of the screen if you have a large number of situations and have scrolled to the bottom.  Is this what you ran into?

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General Discussion / Re: Importing Sounds
« on: March 16, 2018, 01:40:40 pm »
You can import ringtone files to the app using the same method as importing songs.  Email them to yourself, or place on cloud storage, etc.   Those files are in m4r or m4a format and that is a recognized format for the app.

But, I can find no current way to get access to the files for the ringtones you purchase from iTunes. 
Apple provides no method for apps to access those ringtone files on the device.

There used to be ways using iTunes on a MAC or PC, but Apple removed all options for that with iTunes 12.7.   

I do see PC/Mac app utilities that claim to be able to get ringtones from your device, but they are not free.

Perhaps there are some expert users of the forum that could point out a way to export the ringtone files.

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I had to move the add button to make room for the team menu trigger button. 

This solved two big problems in that most users where not aware that multiple team pages were available and also many users did not immediately see the add button and didn't know where to start.

On iPad screens there would still be room to have the 'add' button on the top of the screen, but not so much on phones.

I would prefer not to move it back, but would be willing to alter it's position and or size it there specific screen orientations where the add button in the lower right gets in the way of anything or makes it unworkable?

I do see the issue with the add song window going off screen with a long list of situations.   I will fix that in the next update.


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Enhancement Requests / Re: Walkout Songs - Add "Position" Column/Field
« on: March 16, 2018, 12:04:02 pm »
I have considered the addition of a position, but in the typical use case of this app it seems that many of the positions would change from game to game. 

I suspect the burden to keep the positions accurate might outweigh the benefit for the announcer.  As you mention, the positions are usually required on the lineup card for use cases where it matters.

I am open to more opinions if anyone else on the forum disagrees with my suppositions. 

If this feature would help enough users, I might be able to add an option in the configuration to show or hide a position column so it would be available where necessary and hidden in use cases where it wasn't useful.


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Version 2.3.8 was released from the App Store on March 14, 2018.

Added features and modifications include:
- Ability to select and play Apple Music Subscription songs

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Spotify denied my application for commercial usage of their songs with Walkout Song DJ.  I did not understand their exact reasons behind the denial, so I sent them an appeal request with further explanation of how their songs would be used in the app.  It took them 8 months to respond with the denial so I am not hopeful that I will hear anything soon or maybe ever.

Sad part is that I have the integration with their sdk developed and it works very well :(

Perhaps you could send them feedback that you would like to see that support.  If enough users contact them, they may see some value in the combination.

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General Discussion / Re: Cannot use Apple Music library
« on: March 10, 2018, 02:26:02 pm »
Apple Music songs were not supported until the release that is currently in beta test.  It was a rather monumental task to work around all the limitations that Apple put on playing those songs.  I waited with each iOS release hoping Apple would add a reasonable interface, but they still have not.  As Apple Music support produced almost all the 1-star and negative reviews, I decided to see if I could find some tricks to get the restricted Apple Music song interface to work well enough and I believe I succeeded.  I plan on public release by next weekend, but i can add you to the beta test list if you need it sooner.  Just send me a forum message with your email.

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General Discussion / Re: Android app
« on: March 07, 2018, 05:44:26 am »
It should accept files with extensions mp3 or m4a and a couple others.  Those are the most common these days.  It is also quite possible the file you tried was fine and some sanity checks I have in the import kicked it out for no good reason.  The Android app has only been released for a couple weeks and I am still finding things to fix on a daily basis.

If you would like to email me the file you tried, I can figure out why the app rejected it and get it fixed if the file is valid and playable by the Android media framework.  My email can be found on my member profile here or at the bottom of the app listing on the google play store.

Regarding the best place to download files... I would recommend just buying them from Amazon.  15 dollars should cover the whole team. Pretty reasonable compared to the price of a new bat for your player.  I did see there is a SoundCloud to mp3 converter listed on Google so perhaps that would work too.

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General Discussion / Re: Android app
« on: March 06, 2018, 07:04:34 pm »
When the link took you to the app, did it ask whether it was a song or announcement?  That indicates it was a valid sound file format.  If so, hopefully you picked

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